September 12, 2023: Open Agenda

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Meeting Notes

Foleon

  • College of Education may start using it
  • AITS currently has a legacy subscription plan with Foleon, no longer offered - 8 seats, may be able to get additional groups added or look into a larger subscription for the University. Contact Bryan with questions.

Caffeine Break

Navigation menu discussion

  • Nick Hoyt brought up question of open-on-hover interaction pattern vs. open-on-focus
    • Mozilla website: example of open-on-hover, require interaction to open on focus – disclosure pattern for keyboard
    • University of Illinois website: megamenu with open-on-hover AND open-on-focus
    • General agreement that open-on-focus can be problematic if only <Tab> key can be used to move between menu items - functionally it means you have to tab through every single item in the menu to get past the menu
    • Also agreed that open-on-hover for megamenus is annoying for mouse users because it can be hard to get to the content of the page - it keeps getting obscured by the megamenu when you move your mouse over it
  • Bryan: how do folks feel about main menu items as page link (vs. buttons that only open a menu)
    • Differing opinions on this one - no single right answer
    • Nick: defer to Neilson-Norman, avoid split buttons (click on label to visit new page, click on arrow next to it to expand menu)
  • WIGG uses an "enhanced" menu pattern (as Jon Gunderson put it) for Illinois web theme
    • Open-on-hover
    • Tab through menu items
    • Left/Right arrow keys move between top-level menu items
    • Up/Down arrow keys move among secondary menu items
  • Dena: what about mixing single top-level menu items (i.e. a page link) with top-level items which open a menu?
  • Hadi: what about the File Explorer split button approach? i.e. for interacting with column headers: <enter> to sort, <Alt>+<Down> to trigger second option
    • Seems like a good solution, but not a standard interaction pattern on the web, so it'd be hard to convey to users how to use the menu

Other news:

  • Nick Hoyt is retiring! Congratulations, Nick!!

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